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Judaism differs in that the holy book, the bible(or torah), is a historical account from MANY people that lived in those times and reported what they saw
it's considered factual because other historical works say the same things, and things in the bible will oft say the same thing but from completely unrelated people
there are still cases of things like medical miracles
Ice909
Judaism differs in that the holy book, the bible(or torah), is a historical account from MANY people that lived in those times and reported what they saw
why is Christianity and all other related religions who also believe in God the one religion standing that still focuses on a God, and aside anything spirital or something(edited)
the difference is UFOs are oft "reported" by a handful of mentally ill folks whereas the biblical testimonies are repeated by so many people and sources you kinda gotta accept it as fact
JSheerXeno54
and pagans, they may have gods, but their based on forces of nature and is spirutal
I'll rephrase my question into a longer one with more detail. Some people say that religions have the exoteric, and the esoteric. The exoteric says it's telling true stories, while the esoteric is the hidden meaning in them. You can think of the stories of Father Christmas, and the Easter rabbit, and the tooth fairy. The stories are not actually true, and as you get older you learn that they are not true. According to occultists, with myths, people are meant to work out that they are not actually saying what they literally are, for instance they're not really saying where rain comes from, instead there is hidden meaning that has to be said in veiled terms and worked out.
My question is why you think the myths have nothing hidden in them, the rain represents just the rain, so they are wrong?
Ice909
the difference is UFOs are oft "reported" by a handful of mentally ill folks whereas the biblical testimonies are repeated by so many people and sources you kinda gotta accept it as fact
I'll rephrase my question into a longer one with more detail. Some people say that religions have the exoteric, and the esoteric. The exoteric says it's telling true stories, while the esoteric is the hidden meaning in them. You can think of the stories of Father Christmas, and the Easter rabbit, and the tooth fairy. The stories are not actually true, and as you get older you learn that they are not true. According to occultists, with myths, people are meant to work out that they are not actually saying what they literally are, for instance they're not really saying where rain comes from, instead there is hidden meaning that has to be said in veiled terms and worked out.
My question is why you think the myths have nothing hidden in them, the rain represents just the rain, so they are wrong?
it's shocking to me you dismiss reports of ufo as crazy people talk and yet you accept written text of the bible to be true. the best evidence for bible telling truth you can find is similar to what you have for ufo: eg that a person existed, that person lived in that city, the ruler of the country was that person and they said this and that(edited)
as far as UFOs go, I wrote off the topic earlier in the discussion because I did not want us getting off topic and frankly I know less about the subject so I just regurgitated what I've been taught from history class
well ok, but you can say the same about a person seeing ufo. they have their fb page, you can check their school documentation, you can even talk to them. but it only proofs that person existed, nothing more
let's say you have 1000 people in a book
you have a proof of 10 of them existing
there is metaphysical claims going on
are the metaphysical claims proven to have happened, and actually be metaphysical, not have natural origin and misinterpreted by said people because of their lack of understanding of what happened?
ie, it's believed by scientists that noah's arc, as in, noah, from the real ass flood that science also confirms, washed up on the ararat mountains in turkey